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We don't have a present perfect. That is a passato prossimo, which is as the word says a past. Present perfect is typical of English, but in Italian past is past, except for historical present but this is not the case. In this case the past extends to the present, but the only reason why you interpret it as such is because then he talks about his intentions for the future. Since he says I will not loose you you are allowed to infer that he still has her. If you had io ho avuto solo te, one could be left wandering whether it is a fished story or not because it says something about the past. Io mi fermerò means I will stop or I will stay, it is ambiguous between the two readings. One could interpret it as I will stop experimenting, or I will stay and therefore I will not wander in the roads of the world. As for Fratelli d'Italia, la chioma is one's hair, in this case a metonymy for Victory's head. It is an allegory. The Goddess Victory offers herself to new Italy and to Rome. She had been made slave of the latter by God. DOn't ask...
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| Posts: 3213 | Location: Upper Maremma; Tuscany; Italy | Registered: 19 October 2003 |   |
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I have a book in English explaining Italian grammar which says passato prossimo is equivalent to present perfect in English and trapassato prossimo is equivalent to past perfect in English. This means next to nothing to me because I don't know the names of special tenses in English, as a native speaker it comes "naturally." Example (questionable)! ho mangiato -- I ate or I have eaten
(To other English speakers learning Italian -- it is kind of a waste of money getting a grammar book in English it really doesn't help a lot, at least not me) avevo mangiato -- I had eaten
Not even getting into imperfetto
Or passato remoto or trapassato remoto which I prefer not to think about.
Maybe if one learns several languages as a young child it is all easy.
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If this helps ...
In English,
I have eaten - is present perfect I had eaten - is past perfect I will have eaten - is future perfect
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| Posts: 63 | Location: San Francisco Bay Area | Registered: 04 November 2007 |   |
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For you it's probably easier to pass from the present perfect to the passato prossimo, because some uses of the present perfect are covered by our passato prossimo. But there is no way that they are the same thing as all ESL students know very well...  Persent perfect is essentially a present, with roots in the past. It bears relevance for the moment you utter it. And as a matter of fact you cannot say "yesterday, I have gone to the cinema", which in italian is in the passato prossimo, "ieri sono andata al cinema".
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| Posts: 3213 | Location: Upper Maremma; Tuscany; Italy | Registered: 19 October 2003 |   |
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I know English grammar pretty well, but I'm just a beginner in Italian. Your example is call the "simple past" in English. I think both the simple past and the past perfect in English are translated into the passato prossimo in Italian, but I'm not sure. Is that the case?
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| Posts: 63 | Location: San Francisco Bay Area | Registered: 04 November 2007 |   |
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Sorry, I meant "present perfect" not past perfect.
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| Posts: 63 | Location: San Francisco Bay Area | Registered: 04 November 2007 |   |
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