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I read a bit this morning and found a very nice mention of Judy's Divina Cucina in the Florence section.
"I am a Southerner. I like the feel of these words. I could no more be otherwise than I could shed my outer skin or change the color of my eyes." Willie Morris
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| Posts: 1468 | Location: on the Alabama River | Registered: 22 July 2002 |   |
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Well that ought to keep the Corridor alive for a bit longer; not that it's moribund. I wonder how many more "Hi! I'm doing R-F-V in 10 days" queries we can expect from that one article.
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Now, now. Ya'll are being a bit rude and superior.  Not everyone has two, three, four or more weeks off to travel slowly. And I believe if you took a poll on this site many would own up to having done the big three in ten or a guided tour from the Lakes to Amalfi in fifteen. I think if you have done a whirlwind trip of that nature it makes this site all the more valuable. You probably enjoyed the first trip (it was Italy, after all) but came home wanting to return to see all that you missed due to time constraints. And it's great to have a group of Slow Travelers so willing to offer up advice for that next, much slower trip.  As for the issue of Bon Appetit, it really focuses more on the food markets in those cities and the bounty of the spring season - lots of great photos, recipes and yes, some recommendations for hotels, restaurants, cafes, gelateria - things tourists like to read about. I am a tourist. I love Florence, Rome and Venice. 
"I am a Southerner. I like the feel of these words. I could no more be otherwise than I could shed my outer skin or change the color of my eyes." Willie Morris
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| Posts: 1468 | Location: on the Alabama River | Registered: 22 July 2002 |   |
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robert, you took the words right out of my fingertips.  i've traveled "slowly" in 8 days (paris, day trips to versailles and chartres) and 10 days (rome, day trip to florence). 2 weeks or more vacation time isn't a requirement to slow down and savor. ... and if we can't make a little fun of zoom/hummingbird/whiz-by travel on the Slow Travel website, then where can we?? 
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| Posts: 14516 | Location: The Beautiful San Francisco Bay Area | Registered: 06 August 2001 |   |
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Absolutely: it's important to spread the word that slow travel is not necessarily for the rich alone; nor for those with cars (and $90/day to rent them); nor for the shiftless like me who though poor have months at a time. My first trip to Italy was 2 weeks, during which I never left Rome; my second was only 10 days: Orvieto and Todi.
I like Florence — the only place I've ever wept in front of a painting — and love Rome; and fully expect to love Venice which, God willing, will be a month of my next trip. But such fondness or love or bonding or even just plain understanding what we experience doesn't come from the 10‑day zoom down the received sights; if travel is not for becoming more human, what on earth is it for? It's in fact a kind of gospel we're spreading at SlowTrav. . . .
And then when people can't read, or come ostensibly to get advice while rejecting it before they start — why shouldn't we be prodded a bit, or chuckled at (no more), or, if it's really bad, just ignored?
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I'm with Bags on this one. Our first trip to Italy was a 10-day Rome Florence and Venice with heaven forefend, 3 more days tacked on for Taomina. Why? B/c my husband, up until that point in his life didn't like "touring" vacations and only wanted to lay on the beach and I thought this would be my only shot at Italy, so I wanted to see as much as possible, even if it was only the highlights. This worked for us and luckily ended up kindling of love of travel that will soon expand past Italy. So, on the off chance that others, with similar itineraries and reasons are visiting us, and the hope that maybe they too will someday see the advantages of slowing down, I think it's best to suggest alternatives to the fast pace, but I don't think it's our place to judge their methods or motives.
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| Posts: 15365 | Location: Casa dei Cerrbiati, NJ, USA | Registered: 16 June 2001 |   |
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Oh and I'm enjoying the issue though there's very little info (i.e., restaurants or hotels) that's new to us. Very nice mention for Diva - something like, Best Cooking School For Those Who Wished They Had a Kitchen. It's upstairs; I'll try to post the exact quote later.
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| Posts: 15365 | Location: Casa dei Cerrbiati, NJ, USA | Registered: 16 June 2001 |   |
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I don't get Bon Apetit mostly because i don't cook, my husband does. It would be fun to see what markets are mentioned Great for Diva!! I was wondering what painting made Bill Thayer cry?
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| Posts: 1680 | Location: Paris or Florence | Registered: 14 October 2004 |   |
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Chalk it up to the Stendhal syndrome. . . . In the Uffizi, I remember the room and the wall. A painter I don't much like (Botticelli), a common subject treated in what seemed to me even while I was looking at it — a very standard way (your typical Annunciation). Human mind as much a mystery as that of Dogs.
As for Corridor Folk, in individual cases I agree: who knows what people's parameters are? and which one of us haven't done some awful spot of Zoom Travel? So I'll prod a bit or, if just too obviously irritating, stay out of it altogether (even if the question is about Umbria!); but the generic phenomenon, with no specific person in the line of fire, I feel quite free to make as much fun of as I can, thank you!
It's not, by the way, because we may be on foot that we can't fall into ZT; there've been several times I've gone tearing thru some place or other, in order to meet a train or a bus, or a bad schedule of my own. But as an actual principle, it's antithetical to enjoyment and even common sense. . . .
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I had the Stendahl syndrome in an exhibit on Still lifes that was at the Strozzi palace. I couldn't get past the first few paintings and wished that I had had a wheel chair to see th rest of the exhibit. Check out the deposition by Pontormo in the church Santa Felicità the next time you are here. Then you can refresh yourself with a good glass of wine and a little stuffed chili-pepper at the enoteca Le Volpi e Uva right there next to the church. Bon Apetit
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| Posts: 1680 | Location: Paris or Florence | Registered: 14 October 2004 |   |
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Hmmm...I think I have a blind spot for Mannerism. I'll pass on the Pontormo and just have the wine, thanks! Too much swirling pink and blue for me. What I like about S Felicità is that neat entrance from the Vasari corridor straight into the private ducal balcony. Though the construction of the corridor didn't do much for the church's proportions... Web Gallery of Art page, for the curious. Jonathan
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| Posts: 2978 | Location: Stroud, UK | Registered: 18 November 2001 |   |
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Okay, I'm stumped - what the Stendahl syndrome?
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| Posts: 162 | Location: Campbell, California | Registered: 18 January 2005 |   |
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WOW.. I have already gotten tons of emails from the Article... Will see it when I get to Dallas On Tuesday.. I am speaking at a culinary convention.. on Olives.. Angie did a great new recipe collection/card with me!!! Can't wait!
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| Posts: 5388 | Location: Florence / Certaldo Italy | Registered: 01 December 2001 |   |
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quote: Originally posted by hazel1: Okay, I'm stumped - what the Stendahl syndrome?
When you find yourself overwhelmed by seeing too much art, etc. in a short period of time...... Stendhal Syndrome - definition
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| Posts: 5973 | Location: Washington DC 20015 | Registered: 19 September 2002 |   |
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Quoting from the beginning of the definition: quote: Dizziness, panic, paranoia, or madness caused by viewing certain artistic or historical artifacts or by trying to see too many such artifacts in too short a time. (SlowTrav italics mine!)
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I just wanted to add a few cents about the Bon Appetit issue (which is on top of my mail stack)and the concept of Slow Travel. Our first trips abroad were of the 3 cities/10 days and I don't regret a moment of the opportunity to travel that way. It has led to a deeper understanding and appreciation for fewer places/more depth and since we still cannot squeeze (for job reasons)more than 2 weeks at a stretch, moving quickly still works sometimes. We will be back in Italy in July, seeing Rome for the first time, returning to Florence and then spending time in Umbria; we're traveling with friends who have never been to Italy and I've made a real effort to incorporate both elements in this trip. For example, after reading and lurking on this board for several months, I completely took off the idea of going south from Rome,given our time frame. decided we will return for another trip and slept better from that point on. If our daughter goes to Siena for a semester abroad in spring 2006, well, in another two week frame we will return to Tuscany (did some in 2000) and maybe add something new as well. Someday, we hope to have larger periods of time with which to travel, but I really think everyone has to start somewhere so thanks to everyone's imput, from the corridor people to the slowest of the slow.
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| Posts: 2760 | Location: Pasadena area, California | Registered: 06 April 2005 |  | | |