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I'm finding it stated in Columella (an ancient Italian author, an expert on farming), in passing as if were a common piece of normal advice, that to encourage oxen to drink one should whistle to them. Does anyone know anything at all about this Italian habit? Non ho mai sentito chiedere di fischiare alle mucche.... I frankly suspect text corruption.

After reflection, I'm posting this link to the actual passage, lest, in view of past donkeys and camels and such, someone were tempted not to believe me!
 
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You're right about one thing, Bill. I was tempted to doubt you, from the moment I saw the topic title!

Although I grew up on a cattle ranch and remember my parents always talking quietly to milk cows, I don't remember any whistling to the cows. My mother could whistle louder than anyone I ever knew, so I do remember her whistling to call the dogs.

Then again, this was Wyoming, not Italy, and the milk cows were Holsteins, not oxen.
 
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Don't know about whistling but I have personal experience to prove that cows will come if you sing to them. They possibly would have drunk something if there had been a trough of water in the field where I tried this (in the UK by the way, not Italy).


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Just a thought.... Horses can get very sick if fed when they are too hot from work. They should be cooled down and rehydrate before being fed. Oxen are probably the same. I think that is the reasoning for the first part of the paragraph. As for the whistling; you can "train" animals to respond to sounds by repetitive conditioning. A friend of mine taught her horse to urinate in a bucket with a whistle command. Of course it requires lucky timing and lots of positive rewards at first, but with enough attention it can be done. Once the conditioning is accomplished, it makes life much easier for everyone. Pavlov's theory used in an unexpected way!
 
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I am pasting the original latin text. But trying to interpert the latin text is a bit beyond my lingustic skills and kowledge!!!

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Since Alice has posted it, it will be no secret that I'm in the process of entering my own copy of it (from a different edition), and they'll eventually be cross-linked like the other "facing" texts on my site.

Yes, the words in question are ad aquam duci oportet sibiloque allectari; and although no previous scholar seems to have fastened on it, to me this sounds so odd — if slightly less so from y'all's input here — that I'm tempted to think that sibiloque is a medieval copyist gone awry while transcribing sibi <???>oque. So while no one can find the correct original text if the whistling is some kind of a mistake, on the other hand if trills to Bessie is common behaviour in Puglia, the problem will be solved: jes' keep the mail coming, folks!

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When I was a kid, there were cows in a field near our house.
We kids wanted to ride horses, but since there were no horses, we would whistle for the cows to come close to the fence.
They always came. Then we put bitless halters on them and road them around the pasture. I have no idea what the cows' motivation for cooperating with us may have been. We didn't offer any special treats.


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It's common knowledge in Vermont (and was already when my husband grew up on a farm here)that cows give milk more freely if there's classical music playing in the background. Rock doesn't work. I think Mozart is supposed to be best, but I'll ask if Dominic remembers any preferences Note.
 
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Well thank you all, but this looks inconclusive now, and I'll have to do a lot more spadework! I was hoping for the easy confirmation....

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